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McCain picks Sarah Palin

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 1:54pm by Eva Lam

The VP pick: Sarah Palin, a first-term governor of Alaska.

I'm interested in your thoughts, but here are a couple of mine.

There are a number of advantages to the pick, but a lot of them seem short-term. From a media perspective, this certainly caught both the press and the Obama campaign - Palin flew under the radar and the campaign, as far as I can tell, hasn't yet issued a reaction. The pick was surprising enough that it will push aside a lot of the coverage of Obama's speech at the convention last night. Picking a woman, and a governor who came to office partly on her promises that she would clean up Alaska's notoriously scandal-ridden political system, gives a much-needed shot in the arm to McCain's maverick reputation, given that the Democrats have spent the past four days assailing Big Mac as a continuation of the Bush administration. Picking a candidate who's relatively unknown offers the McCain campaign the chance to control the narrative about Palin, while the Obama campaign is still looking for a response.

But I think most of these advantages will fade out well before the election. No matter how well the GOP constructs the narrative surrounding Palin, I don't think there's anything in her record that even suggests foreign policy experience - meaning that McCain's key argument that Obama lacks the experience to be commander-in-chief applies doubly to Palin. I don't think McCain and Palin have ever really worked together, unless I'm missing something, which means that aside from enemies, nobody really knows yet if they have anything in common. If the chemistry works out, it could help balance out McCain's image, but if it doesn't, she could just make him look old and awkward - a crapshoot there. And although women may be excited in the short term, it would be a gross underestimation of Hillary Clinton's supporters to assume that identity politics alone could pull them over to the Republican side. While there was tremendous enthusiasm among quite a few women (and not a few men!) about the possibility of electing the first female president, that enthusiasm was rooted in the fact that Hillary had a strong record on women's issues. That enthusiasm, among the vast majority of Hillary supporters that I know, was hardly so shallow as to be transferable to the next woman who comes along. Instead McCain is dealing with a political unknown who undercuts the biggest argument he can make against Barack Obama.

Oh, and apparently her learning curve would be pretty steep.

Your thoughts?

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I'm thrilled he picked her.

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 2:30pm by Anonymous (not verified)

I'm thrilled he picked her. I find it humorous. I mean, do his advisers really believe Hilary's supporters are now going to vote for McCain b/c of this uber-right wing chick? She's inexperienced, corrupt, and so far right, she makes McCain look liberal. The only thing she and Hilary have in common are their chromosomes.

Seriously? Palin? I can't

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 2:54pm by Jeremy (not verified)

Seriously? Palin? I can't imagine this woman becoming POTUS. She's vastly underqualified - only 2 years as governor of Alaska, and before that, mayor of a town that has 5 percent the population size of Obama's Illinois state senate district. She has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs, or for that matter, national security issues, and despite the McCain camp's assertion that she brings about change, is already dogged by an ethics investigation. This is the same governor who led a lawsuit against the federal government for putting polar bears on the "threatened" species list, and someone who is as conservative as they can get.

I see why McCain made this choice, but I agree with Eva that the initial bump will soon fade out. He's not adding to the appeal to moderates and independents with Palin, and I doubt many of Hillary's supporters will jump ship simply because McCain's number two is a woman.

 Seriously, Palin?!

I would think that the

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 3:01pm by Anonymous (not verified)

I would think that the experience question applies doubly to Obama, rather than the other way around.  He's the one running at the top of a ticket.  Palin becoming Commander in Chief is a contingency plan.  Obama becoming CiC is THE plan.  So unless Obama has announced his intention to kill himself immediately after the election, I don't see how the Democratic ticket can be treated as the one that puts experience in charge.

A better metric than

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 6:13pm by Markus Kolic

A better metric than "experience" is "would this person make a trustworthy president," or even "would this person make a plausible president." With Obama the answer to those questions is yes; with Sarah Palin, not so much.

I have no idea what you are

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 6:36pm by Anonymous (not verified)

I have no idea what you are talking about, care to elaborate?  I know enough about Obama to know that I, as a Republican, will dislike the decisions he makes, I'm not sure how trust enters into that equation.  Palin has a reputation as a bi-partisan reformer.  If you aren't bothered by her lack of experience, are you bothered by that reputation?

Another way to put it: are

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 6:41pm by Markus Kolic

Another way to put it: are you comfortable with Sarah Palin's hand on the nuclear button? Do you really believe Sarah Palin has the judgment and leadership skills to do the most powerful and important job in the country? Is there any evidence of that?

You could claim to be

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 7:14pm by Anonymous (not verified)

You could claim to be concerned about these questions even if Palin was two years into her second term as governor.  What are the magical circumstances that would make you trust that she was not a secret nuclear war monger?  As to the rest of your concerns, her record as a budget reformer is pretty much enough for me.

And why am I supposed to trust the judgment of Biden, who wanted to partition Iraq in 2006, or Obama, whose solution to the civil war in 2007 was to withdraw our troops.

We can play these games back and forth but I doubt you can draw some distinction that will convince me that people should clearly prefer Obama and Biden. 

That's right -- Palin could

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 9:18pm by Markus Kolic

That's right -- Palin could have 30 years of experience and I'd still be afraid to put her in power. Just like John McCain's extensive experience, and Dick Cheney's and Donald Rumsfeld's, was no guarantor of widsom or good judgment. That's why, as I said in the first place, "experience" is a bad metric.

What are the "magical circumstances"? Maybe a proven track record of good choices on key issues (like Obama's support for troop withdrawals or Biden's partitioning plan, both of which would have been positive steps toward a peaceful settlement, as opposed to Bush and McCain's brilliant "KILL EVERYONE" plan). Maybe a demonstration of thoughtfulness and intellectual curiosity, two characteristics which define ..Barack Obama but for which John McCain and Sarah Palin are not exactly known. Maybe just a demonstration of sanity -- and here I'm thinking specifically of Gov. Palin, who supports creationism in schools, and wants to ban abortion even in cases where the mother's life is threatened. See what I mean?

...I also doubt either of us will be persuaded here. But you're a fun sparring partner, Anonymous...

so Markus, what I gather you

Posted on Sat, 08/30/2008 - 9:12am by Raul Campillo

so Markus, what I gather you are saying is that Sarah Palin represents everything that goes against progress in our nation because, despite her gender which is a non-issue, her positions on key issues like people's rights and separation of church and state are completely void of American principles?  Oh, and represents the continuation of GWB's "Shoot first, damn anyone who asks questions later" policy?

A reputation that extends to

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 6:59pm by Raul Campillo

A reputation that extends to maybe half of one percent of people in this country is not much of a reputation.

McCain picked a person who

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 6:24pm by Raul Campillo

McCain picked a person who has zero experience, is under investigation in her home state, and guarantees only three electoral votes.  Her state has barely more people than a congressional district.  John McCain just went from trying to prove Obama doesn't have what it takes to be president to making people ask "WHO? FROM WHERE?"  To think that Obama is not any longer the person in this race who has spent the least amount of time in state or federal government, that Barack Obama no longer has a name that more people can't pronounce in this election (pal-in or pale-in?), to think that Obama no longer is the youngest candidate in this race...all the qualification questions have just shifted from Obama to Gov. Palin, and this is because John McCain has his age and his health creating a very likely scenario that the VP would have to step in.

And on top of that, she is so far right on abortion, I think the Catholic Church is even further left than she is.  She is for outlawing abortion in all circumstances including if continuing the pregnancy would injure or kill the mother.  I don't think that even pro-life women are willing to give up their right to an abortion if the pregnancy is going to cause their own death.  Do you?

You guys are welcome to make

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 6:44pm by Anonymous (not verified)

You guys are welcome to make your rallying cry "Your VP is even more inexperienced than our President".  I think people know which ordering makes more sense.

Abortion is a separate issue - you may be right that she has an over-extreme position there.  I'm not much of an abortion partisan.

so experience is the great

Posted on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 3:12pm by mccant (not verified)

so experience is the great equalizer? hell then, let's work on getting bush in for another 4 years. please!! he has experience because he's older than dirt. that doesn't make him qualified. just like just because he was a POW, doesn't mean that translates into the presidency. and palin was a PERFECT pick for hilary supporters. she doesn't even believe in abortion in the cases of rape and incest. (unless of course, God forbid, it was one of her daughters, I'm sure....)

I am an avid Hillary

Posted on Fri, 09/05/2008 - 3:45pm by Anonymous (not verified)

I am an avid Hillary supporter-- I worked on her campaign. I am a moderate and sometimes even lean two degrees to the right. I know many other middle aged women just like me and most of us are insulted by McCain's so-called "Hillary replacement". I am now leaning five degrees to the left. Go Obama!